This is a comment that Tony made at a blog, good reading for some of us;
If members of bux, ptc, gpt or whatever it may be called were like you, I'd never sell Bux4real. I had and I hope Bux4Real still have persons like you, but is a so small amount that is impossible to build and maintain a real business venture.
I'll point some for you, as is useless even try to maintain a reasonable chat with fanatics, short minded guys that barely are able to write a single sentence that makes sense. Sorry to say that, but only read around and you will see what I mean.
So here goes the points:
- I ALWAYS SAID TO PEOPLE NOT INVEST. SEVERAL TIMES. WHY? BECAUSE I WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT PERSONS WILLING TO MAKE MONEY WOULD FILL OFFERS....MAKING WAY MORE THAN CLICKS. IT NEVER HAPPENED. I HAD MORE THAN 100K OFFERS FILLED WITH JOKES AND NONSENSE SENTENCES.
- I DO HAD MEMBERSHIP UPGRADES. WHY? AS YOU SAID, THE ONES THAT WANT TO, COULD UPGRADE. IF I DIDN'T HAVE, NOBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND. AS I HAD, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THE SAME WAY. NOBODY WAS NEVER ASKED TO UPGRADE OR NEEDED AN UPGRADE TO CASHOUT.
- THE MINIMUM VALUE TO CASHOUT WAS NEVER $5 AS SOMEONE SAID. IT WAS ALWAYS $2.
- BUX4REAL NEVER USED BOTS AT ALL. AND SO FAR AS I KNOW WILL NEVER USE.
- I NEVER REFUSED TO ADMIT MY MISTAKES AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS INDUSTRY. I DID IT SEVERAL TIMES.
- I PAID ALL PENDING REQUESTS WITH EXCEPTION TO A FEW FROM ALERTPAY THAT MAY BE FINISHED TIL NEXT WEEK.
- IF $10 IN THE RENTAL BALANCE OF 40K MEMBERS IS NOT MONEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I'LL NOT TEACH BASIC MATH... IT'S SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT MONEY I GIVE IS MONEY THAT I DON'T MAKE...
- I WAS APPROACHED 3 WEEKS AGO TO SELL BUX4REAL AND MY ANSWER WAS NO! I CHANGED MY MIND? YES. WHY? FOR THE REASONS YOU UNDERSTOOD. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE WITHOUT TIME. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, COMPLAIN, OFFEND AND POST FAKE STATEMENTS. ENOUGH. I DON'T NEED THAT.
- THE NEW OWNER IS A VERY SERIOUS OFFLINE COMPANY THAT WILL GO AHEAD WITH THE SITE. IN LESS THAN 30 HOURS PEOPLE MAY SEE THE SITE BACK AND THE BUZZ WILL STOP. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL MY SITE TO WHOEVER I WANT AND I DON'T NEED TO REQUEST PERMISSION TO NOBODY.
- IF SOMEONE STILL THINK THAT I'M THAT CRAZY TO SHOW MY NAME, BUSINESS ADDRESS, BE ACTIVE IN BUX4REAL FORUM AND HERE, AND PUT THE REPUTATION I BUILD IN ALMOST 14 YEARS ONLINE IN RISK, TO "SCAPE" WITH A 6 FIGURES FINANCIAL LOSS, WELL... THIS IS SIMPLY RIDICULOUS.
- I SOLD THE SITE AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER MY INVESTMENT. THE LARGER AMOUNT OF THE MONEY I'LL RECEIVE IS ATTACHED TO THE SITE FUTURE RESULTS. THAT'S HOW REAL WORLD BUSINESS WORKS BETWEEN SERIOUS PERSONS.
- I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. EVEN IF I HAD...WOULD BE USELESS.
Thanks a lot NeobuxFan to give me this opportunity,
Well, this site promised 500 sponsors and like 60x bux earnings at bux4real. It was an unreal promise yet a lot of people bought it. Stupid ptc monitors such as ptc-investigations gave "advices" to bux4real admin that he later followed. I bet this monitor even gave bux4real a positive review.
In the end, it all ended just like any other bux site would end. There were no sponsors, there was nothing special with this site and the pending payment time was very long. Always think twice before buying a promise such as 500 companies sponsor a ptc site... Also 6 ad links for standard members is a lot and is not possible to sustaine for longer than a few monthes.
The Best PTC Sites does not have a scam list, simply because it's pointless. Just a list of paying ptc sites. Some businesses get sold or close, it's reallity. It doesn't automaticly means that the site is a scam as soon as it's sold. I hope some of you share this view with me.
Here is the email from the admin of bux4real:
I was wondering the best way to express myself about that, but I was not able to arrive at a conclusion.
I don't want to repeat again and again the same I always said.
I know who I am and what was my goal when I started Bux4Real. despite of my lack of knowledge about the Bux industry, I tried to bring a new approach, a new model. At first with Offers, and after that with real ads. Advices, even if not done directly, from experts as Jim Grago (Clixsense owner) and the PTCI Admin called my attention to a reality.
Along with a brave team, in two Months we were able to jump Bux4Real from ZERO to the world's TOP 1.7 website, with tens of thousands of daily unique visitors and millions of page views.
It's really a hard task to change a established industry.
Mostly when the great majority of members, partners as I prefer to call you all, are not able to understand or believe that it's possible to make a difference.
Above all, I'm a business man. That's what I do. I invest in websites, I own websites, I buy websites and, when needed, I also sell websites.
I went to my limit before take the decision I'm telling you all now. Tried all possible models and systems to fix my mistakes and also bring a new model of business to the Bux industry. And I don't think I failed. Despite of all huge problems we face everyday we were able to make a difference. And I mean we all here.
About three weeks ago I was approached to a company with a really interesting offer to buy BUx4Real.
After long reflections and to the benefit of all, including myself, I decided to sell Bux4Real. And that's what I did.
We have a NDA signed so I'm not allowed to give you all details, but this company belongs to entrepreneurs that will go ahead with Bux4Real and will keep some of the actual members. They will make changes, for sure, but the basics of our ideology, to find a real business model, will go ahead.
Bux4Real was sold to serious persons, and they will honor all previous payments. This was one of the most important conditions for me. So you all may rest assured that you will get paid.
I'm not aware of the model that will be implemented, but I can tell you that you will get faster payments and several changes. It'll be a smoothly transition and nobody has any reason to be worried.
From now on, I'll get back to my current business and new ventures that casetronyx may launch soon.
I'm deeply grateful to all of you,and if in the future I decide to get back to the Bux industry you can rest assured that you all will be the first ones to know.